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#241
08-25-2008
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Oh god, same. I couldn't watch the whole Goblet of Fire because that is my favourite Harry Potter book and the movie just ruined it. That's why I'm kind of freaking out over the Twilight movie. If there is one thing I love more than Harry Potter, it's Twilight. I really hope it doesn't suck the book up for me.
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#242
08-25-2008
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I know. I just might go to it by myself/with someone who's not in love with Twilight, because I just might need to walk out, and people tend to take that badly if you leave them sitting there alone... <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley7.png'>
My closest ally in Twilight-liking is the slowest reader on the face of the earth; she's Still not finished Breaking Dawn. I'm going insane trying not to give her any spoilers!!
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#243
08-25-2008
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Lol I'm not done with Breaking Dawn either but I already kinda already know what happens.
That's actually part of the reason why I'm not done with it. Also because I'm too busy with life...
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#246
08-26-2008
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I only have 50 pages left!
I guess I should get reading though because my aunt wants to borrow it. Since she probably doesn't spend a whole lot of time on the Internet, she probably hasn't heard spoilers so she's dying to know what happens next, I bet.
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#248
08-26-2008
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Figures.
I heard that there wasn't an epic battle so I have no idea what they're gonna do without a battle unless they just keep doing the same thing. So it makes sense. *sigh*
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#252
08-27-2008
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[ Well I'm pretty sure that none of them would step out, but even if they did fight, none of the main characters would have been killed off because I remember Stephenie Meyer saying that she loves her characters too much and couldn't do it. I liked the happy ending but it seemed too easy, kind of anticlimactic compared to the rest of the book. ]
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#255
08-28-2008
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i loved the first two books, they were pretty good. but i can't stand Jake and i loathe the fact that Bella has to be stupid and ruin the perfect relationship to be with him. i bought the third book and stopped reading a couple chapters in. i dont plan on ever picking it back up again other than to maybe read the last page a few years down the road if i get extremly bored. the third book makes me hate bella, and makes me feel terrible for Edward that Bella has to throw his love away like trash to be with someone she says she doesn't have feelings of relationship-type love for. i think the pairing of the books was really cliche though, i mean like every vampire series every created has a vampire who can read minds who finds a girl whose mind he can't read that he falls in love with immediately. and yes i can name one off the top of my head, Wounds by Jemiah Jefferson.
sorry if i've offended anyone, was just saying my opinion on the series. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley5.png'>
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#256
08-28-2008
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Well Edward and Bella are still together throughout the whole thing, so... I think you can read through it if you can stomach the fact that there will be some drama with Jacob.
I actually really love Jacob; he is just so much more HUMAN than Edward. Now, I know that Edward isn't perfect, I know that and I love him too, but Jacob and Bella are friends, right? And in the end of Eclipse she finally does realize that she has feelings for Jacob too, but she explains to Edward, "But I love you more." And of course he's all understanding and they stay together despite that, and in the end Jacob finally agrees that he'll stop cutting Bella in half and will let her choose what she wants, which is why in the end Jacob runs away in his werewolf form. The thing with Edward that drew me away from him in Eclipse was the fact that he was being so possessive over Bella's life and not allowing her to see the werewolves. If you love someone it's understandable that you want to protect them, but at the same time I think he should have been more trusting and not relying on his bias to determine whether or not the werewolves were safe. He should have already understood the fact that Jacob was the one who kept Bella alive and at least somewhat sane in Edward's place and he completely shrugged it off. Jacob does stupid things; REALLY stupid things, but he also goes through a hell of a lot being both a teenager and then suddenly a werewolf, so his actions, while they are stupid, I could see why he'd do any of it. He apologizes later anyways and like I said, in the end he does some sort of penance in his werewolf form. Also a lot of people who hated Jacob in New Moon and Eclipse started to like him in Breaking Dawn, which I agree in there he becomes more sympathetic and bearable; he makes much better choices, let's put it that way. =D Quote:
But on the other hand, maybe killing someone off wouldn't have been that great for the plot; the only thing it would really add to it is that it would have been a bittersweet ending, but would it really have made it better because of it? It wouldn't be as cheesy but the way I see it, it wouldn't have added anything to the story. See, in Harry Potter there were a lot of deaths in the last book, right? In fact, there were a lot of deaths in general. Well for one all those deaths were there to show that people Harry knows will die because there's a war going on, right? But Harry Potter in particular is about death and how Harry himself deals with it. Since Twilight doesn't really have that central theme, at least not in the same sense as Harry Potter (though if you think about it the vampires in Twilight kind of remind me of the ghosts in Harry Potter), it wouldn't have that same meaning. The way Stephenie was going about this series, it wouldn't have added nearly as much depth as the HP books do about death, for example. If there's no reason for the deaths other than to not make it cheesy, then I think the author has the right to be too attached to the characters to kill them off. But of course, if there's meaning behind it, the author should eventually become merciless. Sometimes it is hard to detach yourself from a character like that, but when you figure that it's for the better of the protagonist, then you have the heart to do it because you know that there's a reason for it. But on another hand, if Edward and Bella are much like Romeo and Juliet, then they probably should have had the tragic ending. Because they are so much like Romeo and Juliet that it seems so disgustingly happy that they get their happy ending when obviously Romeo and Juliet didn't. Now I suppose you could argue that there are differences, such as how much more time Edward and Bella spent together before they got married and how Edward never had anyone before Bella and Romeo was crushing on Rosalind (and probably other girls before her) just before he met Juliet, but the way they become attracted to each other still applies, I think. The more I talk about this series, the more I feel so proud of myself for proving to other people that there is indeed literary merit in these books. Granted there are also flaws, but those are also fun to talk about. =D
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#257
08-30-2008
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[ Yeah, I knew no one would die, because even though I hadn't heard Stehpenie Meyer say it, I knew she was too attached to them. But on the other hand, the ending made sense, so fair dues to her. A lot of authors in that situation would have a real deus ex machina ending. The Alice thing was well set up. But the way the scene in the clearing came about, it was so all-or-nothing, if anyone significant got killed (especially Carlisle) everyone would have gotten killed. ]
I think they're the way Romeo and Juliet should have been. While obviously assisted by forces unavailable to Romeo and Juliet (eg Alice!), they're a lot better at coping with trouble than Romeo and Juliet were.
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#258
08-31-2008
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True, that and the fact that Romeo and Juliet were so quick to want to get married. I mean they met each other one night, convinced themselves that they were the ones for each other, and then rushed to get married. Time can't be an issue in the Twilight world because vampires quite literally have all the time in the world.
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#259
08-31-2008
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is there anyone here who DOESN'T like the series? x_x
i hope to god im not the only one in the world who hates it and to those who are about to say "well have u even read them?" i have read them and hated them =/ sparkling(wtf?) vampires, abusive boyfriends....no. .-. and bellas just.... annoying as hell... i dont understand how every girl in this world loves the series its ur choice i guess ^^;;
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#260
09-02-2008
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Yeah, exactly. Nah, Romeo and Juliet, it was never going to work. Edward and Bella, contrary to popular belief, didn't experience love at first sight. Bella, like everyone else, was intrigued by the elusive and beautiful Cullens, and happened to think Edward was the best looking of the boys. Edward was confused by Bella's lack of an inner voice he could hear, and then just wanted to drink her blood. It was a more natural progression - from curiosity on both sides to interest, to romantic interest, to love - than a lot of people give Stephenie Meyer credit for, really!
And plenty of teenage girls love the books, plenty think they're great, plenty think they're fine, plenty think they're crap and plenty think they're the most worthless pieces of junk ever written, I3abiiAngel. And there were people who didn't like the series on the forum back from page 1 on. But most people who click on "The Twilight Series, anyone?" want to talk about the Twilight series, and most people who want to talk about the Twilight series tend towards liking the Twilight Series! <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley7.png'> Don't worry, you're definitely not the only one who hates them!
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#261
09-08-2008
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I'm sorry, but I haven't read Twilight and never will.
But I'm not here to diss the books, just to make a point. Yes, this post is relevant. Wait for it. The fact is, there are so many screaming Edward fangirls falling in love with this fictional character with almost an obsessive lust, that it just plain freaks the crap out of me. At ComicCon, I believe it was, they had previews for the Twilight movie and had some of the actors come out onstage. One of them likened the fan response to, and I quote, "A Miley Cyrus concert." I just can't take it seriously after that. If I see one more girl with a facebook status of "ZOMG Edward is my HUSBAND" I'll shoot myself in the face. The books are probably GREAT - but a lot of the fan base has just ruined it for me. Don't you hate it when that happens?
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#263
09-11-2008
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That's why I just ignore the fanbase and continue with liking what I like regardless of whoever else does.
Though I must agree with you; those girls ARE annoying. That's why I hang around the sane ones... the ones who may or may not love Edward but the ones who do don't completely immerse their lives into his being. If that even makes any sense, which in this context it doesn't even have to. Quote:
Though Midnight Sun could be considered fanfiction if one wants to call it that. I think it's borderline myself since she still owns the characters and she's the author, not a "fan."
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#264
09-13-2008
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Yeah, you just gotta ignore the people who, intentionally or unintentionally, ruin things for everyone else. Anyway, REAL fans are unimpressed with the movie. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley7.png'> As for the Midnight Sun leak, there's a link to it in Meyer's own comments at her website (www.stepheniemeyer.com), if you want to read it. I am at the moment! I'm really surprised it happened. And annoyed that it mightn't be published, because I'm quite OCDish, and I want it in hardback, matching the other books, to put on my bookshelf!
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#265
09-14-2008
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I know what you mean about wanting to read it in hardcover, but I don't mind it not being published at the same time. That way I don't have to buy it, plus like I said it is kinda like fanfiction and since we've already read Twilight we already know what happens.
So I don't really mind either way.
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#266
10-04-2008
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Heavy doesn't.
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#267
10-08-2008
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And I disagree... The books in the series, in order of awesomeness, go like this:
Twilight > Eclipse > Breaking Dawn > New Moon
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#268
10-13-2008
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I think I'd switch Breaking Dawn and New Moon, and maybe Eclipse and Twilight.
The thing about New Moon was that while the schizo parts made me want to throw something at Bella, I loved Jacob and learning about the werewolves. I liked the book better than I thought I would because the werewolves are so much more graceful and intelligent in this series than in others I could think of. Then again, I suppose according to Edward's reasoning, they aren't actually "werewolves." :/
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#270
10-14-2008
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Yeah. Shapeshifters.
"It never came up," he says. Yeah.
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